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Ask Johnny your Macintosh Computer Performance or Features question
Monday, April 3, 2006

Ask Johnny AppleSpeed - Power Macintosh G3 233 MHz Compared To The Mac Mini 166 GHz Intel Core Duo

Machine Specification Differences
Machine Performance Differences
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Price Comparisons

Hello,
I am finally ready to upgrade. Please compare...
Power Macintosh G3 233 MHz With... Mac Mini 166 GHz Intel Core Duo

Thank you very very much.

Gale

Power Macintosh G3 233 MHz - M6141LL/A -- November , 1997
Mac Mini 1.66 GHz Intel Core Duo - MA206LL/A -- February 2006

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Specifications & Features
iMac
Model/Mhz

Power Macintosh G3 233 MHz

512k L2 cache at 117 MHz

M6141LL/A

Mac mini 1.66GHz Intel Core Duo


2MB Shared

MA206LL/A

Price Information

MSRP: $1,999
Current Price: $179
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MSRP: $799
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Bus Speed
(Mhz)

66 MHz
667MHz

RAM
(MAX)

32 MB

(768 MB Max)
Three memory slots
512MB of PC2-5300 (667MHz) DDR2 SDRAM
2GB Max
2 memory slots

Graphics Support

ATI 3D Rage II+
2 MB of SDRAM
(6 MB Max)

Supports resolutions to 1280 x 1024

Intel GMA950 graphics processor
64MB of DDR2 SDRAM shared with main memory

Supports digital resolutions up to 1920 by 1200 pixels

Hard Drive

4 GB E-IDE

80GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA

Expansion

One hard drive expansion bays.

Three PCI slots
One Comm

None

Optical Drive

CD-ROM - 24X

Slot-loading SuperDrive with double-layer support
(DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)

Writes DVD+R DL up to 2.4x
Writes DVD-R & DVD+R up to 8x Writes DVD-RW & DVD+RW up to 4x Reads DVDs up to 8x speed
Writes CD-R up to 24x speed
Writes CD-RW up to 16x speed, Reads CDs up to 24x speed

Communication

10/100/1000 BT Ethernet

Optional 56k modem

Built-in 10/100/1000BASE-T

Built-in 54 Mbps AirPort Extreme Wi-Fi (802.11g)

Built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR (Enhanced Data Rate) module.

Connectivity

ADB port


2 GeoPorts

DB-25 SCSI connector


15-pin VGA connector

4 USB 2.0 ports on computer

1 FireWire 400 Ports, 8 watts

Combined optical digital audio input/audio line in (minijack)

Combined optical digital audio output/headphone out (minijack)

DVI video output to support digital resolutions up to 1920 by 1200 pixels

VGA video output (using included adapter) to support analog resolutions up to 1920 x 1080 pixels

S-video and composite video output to connect directly to a TV or projector (requires Apple DVI to Video Adapter, sold separately)

Supports 20-inch Apple Cinema Display and 23-inch Apple Cinema HD Display; supports coherent digital displays up to 154MHz; supports noncoherent digital displays up to 135MHz

 Screen

None

None

Weight





22 pounds (10 kg)

Height: 2 inches (5.08 cm)
Width: 6.5 inches (16.51 cm)
Depth: 6.5 inches (16.51 cm)

Weight: 2.9 pounds (1.31 kg)

 

Extras



Apple Remote
Front Row
Optional external Apple USB Modem

Performance

Performance

Unfortunately because of the time that has passed between when we tested these two machines we are not able to provide you with a direct performance comparison.

That being said, we can say that the Intel Mac mini will run rings around your current machine. In processing capacity it is at least 10 times as fast as your current machine, and quite possibly faster. All other aspects of the newer machine will be faster as well. Some of your applications will need to be updated to take advantage of the new Intel processor, and it may be some months before they are, but once that is done, they will fly on the Mac mini, compared to what you are used to.

The use of the new dual core Intel processor makes the current Mac mini a much more flexible machine, compared to its predecessors.

While we cannot make a direct comparison of these two machines you may find some of the comparisons linked below interesting

Mac mini 1.66 GHz Intel Core Duo
vs 12" PowerBook G4/1.33GHz (Raw)
vs Mac Mini G4/1.25GHz (Raw)
vs Mac Mini G4/1.42GHz (Raw)
vs Mac mini 1.5GHz Intel Core Solo (Raw)
vs Power Mac Dual G4/500 MHz (Raw)
vs Power Mac Dual G5/1.8 GHz (Raw)
vs Power Mac Dual Core G5 2.0 GHz (Raw)

Links To Further Information


Additional Resources

Mac mini InfoZone
Mac mini Performance vs Others
Mac mini Performance Profiles
Mac mini Buyer's Guide
Mac mini Specs & Features
Mac mini Reviews
Mac mini Discussion Forum
Apple's Mac mini Page
Apple's Previous Mac mini Specification Details

Power Mac InfoZone
Power Mac Performance
Power Mac Performance vs Others
Power Mac Buyer's Guide
Power Mac Specs & Features
Power Mac Reviews
Power Mac Discussion Forum
Apple's Power Mac Page
Apple's Previous Power Mac Specification Details


Initial price difference:
Mac mini 1.66GHz Intel Core Duo - $799
Power Macintosh G3 233 MHz - $1,999

Current price difference:
Mac mini 1.66GHz Intel Core Duo - $794
Power Macintosh G3 233 MHz - $179

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1.66GHz Intel Core Duo 80/Super #MA206LL/A Originally: $799

This Section Updated: Wednesday, April 19, 2006

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Basic Stats

Mac mini 1.66GHz - MA206LL/A
1.66GHz Intel Core Duo processor
2MB L2 Cache
667MHz Frontside Bus
512MB memory
Intel GMA950 graphics
64MB Graphics Memory
80GB Serial ATA hard drive
Double-layer SuperDrive
Built-in AirPort Extreme
Built-in Bluetooth 2.0
Apple Remote
Released 2/28/06
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Performance
Score
%
Processor Dual CB
471
+123%
Processor Single CB
258
+121%
Graphics Card CB
1008
+397%
Graphics Games fps
20
+11%
Hard Drive sec.
79.86
+45%
QuickTime sec.
NA
NA
CB = CineBench 9.5 Score
% = Performance compared to Power Mac Dual G4/1.0GHz
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