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MacComparisonZone: 17 Inch G4/1.5 GHz PowerBook vs Dual G5/1.8 GHz Power Mac vs Dual G5/2.0 GHz Power Mac - What Are The Performance, Feature And Price Differences

Specially prepared for Tom ... Request your own Custom Comparison

Updated: 8/8/04

Question: "I am trying to decide how much performance I would give up by going to the
17" Pbook versus the new G5. I want to run Final Cut Express or Pro, as well
as digi-audio applications. Do you have a comparison between these laptops
and towers? ..... Thanks, Tom"

Answer: Any current Power Mac you buy will run rings around the current top of the line PowerBook for the type of work you plan to do. For you processing prowess is the most important factor in getting work done. Pay special attention below to the performance scores that are processor orientated. Including iMovie, QuickTime, iDVD and Processor Multitasking. For crunching through data a dual processor machine will give you the most flexibility ... however it is hard to take on the road!


Introduction

This Buyer's Guide compares the G4/1.5 GHz 17 Inch PowerBookk to the PowerMac Dual G5/1.8 GHz, and to the PowerMac Dual G5/2.0 GHz. All three machines have the SuperDrive optical drive.

The current 1.5 GHz 17 Inch PowerBook was announced April, 2004. It is the high-end model of a family of four, which includes a 1.33GHz & 1.5GHz 15 Inch machines, and a 12 inch PowerBook running at 1.33GHz

The PowerMac Dual G5/1.8 GHz was announced 3 months later in June, 2004. It is the low -end model of a family of three, which includes a dual processor G5/2.5 GHz machine at the high -end, and a dual G5/2.0 GHz Tower in the middle.

The PowerMac Dual G5/2.0 GHz was announced 3 months later in June, 2004. It is the middle model of a family of three, which includes a dual processor G5/2.5 GHz machine at the high -end, and a dual G5/1.8 GHz Tower at the low-end.

Note: This Table Has Been Updated With More Accurate Numbers: 8/8/04

Machine
17 Inch
PowerBook
Power Mac
Dual G5/1.8 GHz
Power Mac
Dual G5/2.0 GHz
Power Mac
Dual G5/2.5 GHz
Processor
Average
100%
146%
174%
248% (Est)
Processor
(Dual) Average
100%
229%
Not Available
Not Available
Graphics
Average
100%
170%
Not Available
Not Available
Hard Drive
Average
100%
170%
Not Available
Not Available
For more detailed performance results ... see below

Major Technological Differences:

Processor Speed
Cache Speed
Price Difference: $500
Bus Speed
Graphics Card/Slot
Expansion Slots/Hard Drive Bays
Hard Drive Size/Speed
Optical Drive Speed
Built-in Wireless Options
USB Port Number
Firewire Port Number
Audio in & out Options
External Video Support
Video Resolution

Below you will find specifications and features, performance, and price comparisons. We also provide further links where you can do additional research, should you so wish.

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Specifications & Features

Model/Mhz

17 Inch PowerBook G4/1.5GHz
(#M9462LL/A )
17 Inch Screen
L2 Cache: 512K @ 1.5GHz
L3 Cache: None
Date Announced: April, 2004

Power Mac Dual G5/1.8 GHz (#M9454LL/A )
Dual Processor
L2 Cache: 512K @ 1.8GHz (x2)
L3 Cache: None
Date Announced: June, 2004

Power Mac Dual G5/2.0 GHz
(#M9455LL/A )
Dual Processor
L2 Cache: 512K @ 2.0GHz (x2)
L3 Cache: None
Date Announced: June, 2004

Price Information

MSRP: $2,499
Apple Store
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MSRP: $1,999
Apple Store
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MSRP: 2,499
Apple Store
DealZone

Bus Speed
(Mhz)

167 MHz
900 MHZ Frontside bus (x2)
1 GHz Frontside bus (x2)

RAM
(MAX)

512MB
PC2700 (333MHz) DDR SDRAM
(2 GB max)

1 GB As Tested

256MB PC3200
400MHz DDR SDRAM
4 GB max

768 MB As Tested

512MB PC3200
400MHz DDR SDRAM
8 GB max

1.5 GB As Tested

Graphics Support

ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
64MB of DDR SDRAM
4x AGP
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
64MB DDR SDRAM
AGP Pro 8X slot
ATI RADEON 9600 Pro
64MB DDR SDRAM
AGP Pro 8X slot

Expansion
Slots

One PC Card/CardBus slot supporting one Type I or Type II card


AirPort Extreme (54 Mbps) slot

Two hard drive bays (one filled)
One optical drive bay (filled)
Three 33MHz, 64-bit PCI slots

One AGP Pro 8X (filled)
AirPort Extreme Slot

Two hard drive bays (one filled)
One optical drive bay filled)
One 133MHz, 64-bit PCI-X slot
Two 100MHz, 64-bit PCI-X slot
One AGP Pro 8X (filled)
AirPort Extreme Slot

Hard Drive

80 GB Ultra ATA/100
4200rpm
80GB Serial ATA
7200 rpm
160GB Serial ATA
7200 rpm

Optical Drive

SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW)
CD read - 24x
DVD read - 8x
DVD write 4x
CD-R write - 16x
CD-RW write - 8x

SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW)
Writes DVD-R at 8x
Reads DVDs at 10x
Writes CD-R at 24x
Writes CD-RW at 10x
Reads CDs at 32x

SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW)
Writes DVD-R at 8x
Reads DVDs at 10x
Writes CD-R at 24x
Writes CD-RW at 10x
Reads CDs at 32x

Connectivity & Communication

56k modem

Installed 54-Mbps AirPort Extreme Card (based on 802.11g standard; 802.11b Wi-Fi certified)

10/100/1000 BT Ethernet

2 USB 2.0 Ports (480 Mbps)
1 FireWire Port (400 Mbps)
1 FireWire 800 Port




Audio in & out


Bluetooth 1.1 built in

56k modem

Optional 54-Mbps AirPort Extreme Card (based on 802.11g standard; 802.11b Wi-Fi certified)

10/100/1000 BT Ethernet

3 USB 2.0 Ports (480 Mbps)
2 FireWire Port (400 Mbps)
1 FireWire 800 Port

Optical digital audio in and out Toslink connectors

Analog Stereo audio in and out minijacks

Optional Bluetooth 1.1 module and antenna

56k modem

Optional 54-Mbps AirPort Extreme Card (based on 802.11g standard; 802.11b Wi-Fi certified)

10/100/1000 BT Ethernet

3 USB 2.0 Ports (480 Mbps)
2 FireWire Port (400 Mbps)
1 FireWire 800 Port

Optical digital audio in and out Toslink connectors

Analog Stereo audio in and out minijacks

Optional Bluetooth 1.1 module and antenna

Video

17" TFT
1440 x 900

2048 x 1536 support on external display

ADC output using optional Apple DVI to ADC Adapter

DVI output port

VGA output using included DVI to VGA adapter

S-video output port

Composite video output using included S-video to composite adapter

Dual display and video mirroring: Simultaneously supports up to 1280 by 854 pixels on the built-in display and up to 2048 by 1536 pixels on an external display, both at millions of colors

Support for digital resolutions up to 1920 by 1200 pixels




ADC and DVI connectors




DVI to VGA adapter included








Dual display support for extended desktop and video mirroring modes



Support for digital resolutions up to 1920 by 1200 pixels




ADC and DVI connectors




DVI to VGA adapter included








Dual display support for extended desktop and video mirroring modes



Specification Notes

6.9 pounds

Battery Life: 58 -watt 4.5 Hours

Illuminated fiber-optic, backlit keyboard with ambient light sensor

Optional 128MB of video memory

Weight: 44.4 pounds (20.2 kg)

Weight: 44.4 pounds (20.2 kg)

Performance
Machine
17 Inch PowerBook G4/1.5GHz
(#M9462LL/A )
Power Mac Dual G5/1.8 GHz
(#M9454LL/A )
Power Mac Dual G5/2.0 GHz
(#M9032LL/A )
Processor
134 Points
197 Points - - 47% Faster
221 Points- - 65% Faster
Processor (Dual)
134 Points
352 Points - - 163% Faster
393 Points- - 193% Faster
Processor Multitasking
221.19 seconds
114 seconds - - 94% Faster
Not Available
Processor G4 Tuned
31.93 seconds
15.34 seconds - - 108% Faster
Not Available
Graphics (Card)
761 Points
942 Points - - 24% Faster
1057 Points - - 39% Faster
Graphics (Processor)
162 Points
242 Points - - 49% Faster
265 Points - - 64% Faster
Graphics Gaming
(Graphics Card)
25 frames per second
30 frames per second - - 20% Faster
40 frames per second - - 60% Faster
Graphics Gaming
(Processor)
29.5 frames per second
86 frames per second - - 192% Faster
Not Available
Drive Multi-Files
175.57 seconds
134.85 seconds - - 30% Faster
Not Available
Drive Single File
123.07 seconds
58.57 seconds - - 110% Faster
Not Available
Burn CD
109.12 seconds
79.81 seconds - - 37% Faster
78.04 seconds - - 40% Faster
General - Interface
40.92 seconds
17.30 seconds - - 137% Faster
Not Available
iTunes Encode (CD)
92.20 seconds
75.49 seconds - - 22% Faster
Not Available
QuickTime Encode
30.49 seconds
19.16 seconds - - 59% Faster
17.67 seconds - - 73% Faster
iMovie Render
137.22 seconds
62.76 seconds - - 119% Faster
Not Available
iDVD Import
74.88 seconds
29.02 seconds - - 158% Faster
26.68 seconds - - 181% Faster
Photoshop (Workflow)
39.76 seconds
27.64 seconds - - 44% Faster
21.81 seconds - - 82% Faster
Photoshop (Filters)
89.75 seconds
80.27 seconds - - 12% Faster
Not Available
StuffIt Expand
54.82 seconds
43.56 seconds - - 26% Faster
33.60 seconds - - 66% Faster
MS Word
69.09 seconds
53.38 seconds - - 29% Faster
44.84 seconds - - 54% Faster
MS Excel
39 seconds
37.23 seconds - - 5% Faster
34.91 seconds - - 12% Faster
Notes

The 'Percentage' scores for the Towers are related to the PowerBook's performance

As you can see the tower machines run rings around the PowerBook in terms of performance.

The performance numbers for Power Mac Dual G5/1.8 GHz are for the current machine. The Power Mac Dual G5/2.0 GHz numbers are for the previous version of the machine. The current Dual 2.0 GHz machine has a different graphics card and a faster SuperDrive, and the so performance numbers above, where these aspects of the machine are tested, may differ for the currently shipping machine. We are working on performance testing the 2.0 & 2.5 GHz Towers and should have those numbers in a couple of weeks ... if you want to make another comparison request at that time.

Graphics performance on the G5 machines is also much better, helped by a much more advanced graphics card, and the machine's greater processing capability.

Drive performance is also better, in some cases significantly better, on the Tower machines

Processor performance based on CineBench 2003

Processor G4 Tuned Test based on AltiVec Fractal program

Graphics (Card) Test is based on CineBench 2003. In this type of image rendering, the graphics card takes the lead

Graphics (Processor) Test is based on CineBench 2003. In this type of image rendering, the processor takes the lead

Graphics Gaming (Card) Test is based on the game 4x4 EVO2 .. a racing game. All settings are at highest quality. This game is more graphics card dependent

Graphics Gaming (Processor) Test is based on the game Giants.. All settings are at highest quality. This game is more processor dependent ... will also make used of dual processors if present

The 'General Interface' test is based on Let1kWindowsBloom, which is freely available.

The Photoshop (Workflow) score is based on the BareFeats Photoshop Action Script, which you can download and run on your own machine, if you have Photoshop. If you don't have Photoshop, you can download a trial version that will work for this test (249 MB).

Have questions about the performance numbers of the machines above?
For more detailed performance results see this page


Note: No benchmarking is perfect. At best benchmark scores provide a general guide to the comparative performance between machines when running the same tasks. As time passes comparisons between older machines and newer ones become more difficult. We have tried to err on the side of caution, and conservatism, so that if you are surprised ... it is pleasantly so.However the best benchmark it the one you run ... how fast does the computer handle your applications and tasks, letting you get your work done efficiently.

So we urge you, in making your assessments, not to throw benchmarks out the window, but that you treat them as good indication of performance, not a precise one .... have fun!

Links To Further Information
Machine
17 Inch PowerBook G4/1.5GHz
(#M9462LL/A )
Power Mac Dual G5/1.8 GHz
(#M9454LL/A )
(#M9393LL/A )
Power Mac Dual G5/2.0 GHz
(#M9455LL/A )
(#M9032LL/A )
Reviews

MacComparisonZone: 17 Inch G4 PowerBook vs 17 Inch G4 PowerBook?

SpeedZone: New PowerBooks How Fast Are They? - 16 Tests On Current Portables

Government Computer News
Macworld

(#M9454LL/A )

MacUserUK


(#M9393LL/A )

MacComparisonZone: Power Mac Dual G5/1.8 GHz vs Power Mac Dual G5/2.0 GHz

MacComparisonZone: Power Mac G4/733 MHz vs Power Mac Dual G5/1.8 GHz

MacComparisonZone: 17 inch 1.25 GHz iMac vs Power Mac Dual G5/1.8 GHz

Two Towers And A PowerBook - Dual G4/867 MHz Power Mac Compared To Dual Processor 1.8 GHz G5 With A G4 PowerBook Thrown In For Good Measure

Macworld
BareFeats
ComputerWorld

Links to additional information

Additional Resources:
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PowerBook Performance
PowerBook Performance vs Others
PowerBook Buyer's Guide
PowerBook Closeout Buyer's Guide
Apple's PowerBook Web Pages
PowerBook Specs & Features
PowerBook Discussion Forum

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available Epson Stylus C84 Printer, $29 discount via mail-in rebate ($99 up front)
available Epson CX5400 multi-function printer, $49 discount via mail-in rebates ($149 up front)
available Epson CX6400 multi-function printer, $79 discount via mail-in rebates ($199 up front)

 
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Price & Shipping*

$2,995
Free shipping (up to $40) for a "limited time"

Sales Tax

CA, IL, MO, NV, OH, TN, WA

available - Available

unknown - Unknown

unavailable - Unavailable

Apple Promotions and:

unavailable Base Machine
unavailable 1 GB RAM, free after mail-in rebate ($40 install)

 
Store PowerMax
Price & Shipping*

$2,988
$36 shipping charge

Sales Tax

None

Deals & Bundles

available - Available

unknown - Unknown/Delay

unavailable - Unavailable

Apple Promotions and any/all of the following:

Base Machine
Free Inland Pro Sound 2000 speakers
$100 mail-in rebate on any RAM purchased with Power Mac ($35 install fee)
Free USB "Mega Memory" watch after mail-in rebate ($50 up front)
Final Cut Express 2.0 for $99
HP DeskJet 5150, free after mail-in rebate ($100 up front)

nVidea GeForce 6800 Ultra Video Card for $461 (full price)

PowerMax does not provide availability information online...


Shipping charges are to California - your mileage may vary. Also prices quoted are for the bare machine and do not reflect RAM installation charges (usually $40), nor the in-store prices of add-on products for which there is a rebate. Shipping charges (if any) for bundled products , also are not reflected in the prices above.

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